Scammers revealing their strategy?

Several weeks ago some investors in Invex.org received a naughty mail pretending to be sent from Invex owners.
You can read it in the end of the article in case you haven't already read it. Pretty shocking, isn't it?

The first question which could burn your head is if the mail is real. I would appreciate if anyone who received it has tracked the headers or has any other info regarding that. None of us at HYWD was an investor in this scam of course so we haven't received the mail personally. Now i can't tell you if the mail is genuine or not, but i tend to believe it is. The strategy dicsovered by the sender is really the one which the best scams use. Similar strategy is used by PIPS, was used by Jennifer's Invest, Golden Nestegg, Reality Millions etc. Why would they want to reveal the strategy is the main question for me.

But this is not important. Let's see what is the lesson from this case:

"The basis is having 100% false ID documents. For $200 you get a really nice looking pack of documents, even nicer than legal ones"

Yes, this is true. You should just know whome to ask, but even if you don't, you can easy find out. This remembers me that some of the uplines in RealityMillions were talking about seeing the IDs of Midas. Well, now you see even if they tell the truth this means nothing.

"3- We opened a bank account with false documents, put some cash on the account, and got a nice true debit card."

Also true. Any HYIP can start easy accepting bank wires so this does not add too much to a HYIP's credibility. And having the debit card(s) they won't have problem withdrawing the money without even go to the bank and draw attention.

"And you know what? It is true Invex Ltd. and Lomax Group Corp. are pure fantasy"

I even won't loose my time to check this. I have seen it so many times - a program says it is owned by some company and people start to believe. Very few are these who care to check and even when they give a red light, nobody listens.

"How did we withdraw all your nice donations? That's easy, thanks to mygcard who supplied us hundreds of anonymous debit cards that our friedns and us used in various countries! Alain Vignard from mygcard received $20.000 cash in hands for helping us to find the ATM with no "$800/day limits", and telling us how to use the cards at the best."

This is a very important point. The cash makes it all. You are may be a honest person and you think all people are like that? Well, it is not true. Most people would do everything for cash:

"- HIM: 2% more is a good offer, but is your gold clean? We don't want to work with scammers.

- US: Of course, what are you thinking? We are honest businessmen and just want to keep a low profile.

- HIM: OK, i can see you are not scammers, just send me the gold and 4% fee instead of the regular 2%."

So do not trust anyone. Do not trust mr X from fund Y when he says program Z is real. You may think mr X is a honest man, but imagine he get 100k to shut his mouth up. Will he warn you Z is scam?

Reading the rest of your mail you will see they buy everything and everywhere - rating sites, other HYIPs, services... In this world you shouldn't believe anyone and anything. Consider each HYIP a ponzi and play carefully.

Text of Message from Scammers:

Found on HYIPDiscussion

This is a long message and will be the last news you will hear from us... until we open our next HYIP
We want, kindly, recommend you stop losing your time by looking after us. Anyway, for the cyber detectives, here is how we worked.

1- The basis is having 100% false ID documents. For $200 you get a really nice looking pack of documents, even nicer than legal ones
2- We rented a nice apartment with fast internet in a nice city near the sea, with false documents. We then bought a new desktop computer and a new laptop, installed some fresh programs.
3- We opened a bank account with false documents, put some cash on the account, and got a nice true debit card.
4- We opened e-gold accounts and funded them from the bank account above.
5- A bit later we opened e-bullion accounts, funded by... you, idiots who "invested"


OK? Now we have e-gold, internet, a place to sleep, eat etc, all without possibility to track us. A major question was "Must we open a real company". We decided that NO, as people are so stupid that they believe all what they read. And you know what? It is true Invex Ltd. and Lomax Group Corp. are pure fantasy
Okay, let's go to work now!

1- Opening a domain name and booking a server at the katzglobal scammers' best place, paying with e-gold.
2- Later, booking a dedicated server and paying with... the debit card coming from the bank account above
3- Renting Prolexic, and paying them by bank transfers from.... an e-gold exchanger The gold came from YOU idiots who "invested" !
To specialists who want to track us by the IP addresses, we kindly recommend you to use Google and look at JAP, Freenet, I2P, TORR, etc. You will understand that our IP come from anywhere in the world, beeing chained between servers who cannot track them.
And even if so, the last IP address, the place where we lived, was this nice appartment near the sea, that we left some weeks ago Oh, the computers were given to a charity, after the hard disks were physically deleted

Other pros say "Let's track the money"! Great idea, but don't forget that even the ******* muslim terrorists cannot be tracked by the special services

How did we withdraw all your nice donations? That's easy, thanks to mygcard who supplied us hundreds of anonymous debit cards that our friedns and us used in various countries! Alain Vignard from mygcard received $20.000 cash in hands for helping us to find the ATM with no "$800/day limits", and telling us how to use the cards at the best. Well, Alain tried to scam us later, but that is another story

We also used bank transfers from the best exchangers, who have no problem at all sending $100,000 or $200,000 every 3 days to bank accounts in Panama, the BVI, etc Nice offshore places outside the EU and the US Track the money there, dear friends!

Oh, about exchangers, we worked with one of them from Australia, and where a bit afraid at the beginning, as he wrote on his website that he "verifies ALL data" from his clients. LOL ! His fee is 2%, we kindly offered him 2% more "to preserve our privacy" Look at our dialogue by email:

- HIM: 2% more is a good offer, but is your gold clean? We don't want to work with scammers.

- US: Of course, what are you thinking? We are honest businessmen and just want to keep a low profile.

- HIM: OK, i can see you are not scammers, just send me the gold and 4% fee instead of the regular 2%.

Thank you mister G. ))

As I am in a very good mood, I will also explain you something: Most of the biggest HYIP are run by us, a professional team. And when other scammers try to enter our market, BING! If they are interesting people we try to buy them, if not DDOS attacks make them shutdown To be sure our rating is the best one, we also pay the admins of a few monitoring programs, including the biggest and "most reliable" (LOOOOL) one!

Our business is to make money. We use 20% of the money we get to help poor and disabled people around each of us, 20% other is given to some "political" associations that fight against ISLAM (Hey guys from the Emirates, Bahrein, Kuwait, etc etc, did you read this? THANK YOU , and the balance is for us.

We have currently a dozen of HYIP running, are going to close some of them, and of course to open new ones! We are working like this since a few years, and all is working fine!

But you know, it IS possible to make profit from HYIP: Just do it QUICKLY! Look: teamaaronshara#bellsouth.net made $6,580 profit with us, including the commissions they got by sending YOU IDIOTS, to Invex. These people are really scumbags: They are making profit by making you lose!

As a clever guy told in some forum, "there were no guarantees, so no need to cry". YEP! We NEVER gave any guarantee to ANYBODY (unless Titanium plans, and you should notice that THESE guys do NOT cry on your forum, try to guess why...!), we even recommended those who ask for guarantees to go to their local bank They didn't? THEIR CHOICE!

When reading your forum and others, we really laugh! So, most of you were already scammed by other HYIP? By our HYIP maybe Anyway, it seems that you don't understand what a teenager is able to understand! So, you continue to "invest" here and there, and that is good... FOR US! For you, I am not sure When I see a GREAT SPECIALIST, the "Andrewunknown", proudly saying that he lost $40,000 into Invex but that he will recover from other HYIP, WE ARE LAUGHING, FALLING FROM OUR CHAIRS )))) Moreover in his list of "no ponzi", LOL, some of them are from us ))))

Now some personal messages:

- liquidteq#gmail.com threatened us to send "the FBI and the CIA against us" ) better you keep your energy to work and recover your $600 ONLY that you sent us, than saying such BS )))

- "AROBASE", "LUCIEN", "IGOR": YOU will be refunded partially, we contacted you some hours ago.

- "vanderschalk-group" is a clever guy: He made about $45k profit from Invex

- "ANATOLI" is the best one: he made about $170k profit from Invex, even with what we kept from him when we closed!

- lewisfargo, caro, anhvn06, ydna, janhkok, profitondemand, HIPsyD, promax, brewmanau, adtype13sg, , Johnnyslide, etc etc are also in big profit (Between $10k and $50k) from Invex.

Feel free to find and contact them to ask to share ))

Well that's all, folks! We are anyway in touch with a few of you through other HYIP, under other names of course! Good luck

Shalom!
Renaud, Kathy, Oliver, David.

PS. This mail has been sent from an internet public place, using a notebook setup with a false MAC address, a wifi connection, and we connect through an encrypted connection that involves JAP and TORR.

Goodluck to track us

Author Tony Clifton, admin of hywd.info